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HeadGames™ Cylinder Heads
How are HeadGames™ 2JZ-GTE heads for quality and workmanship? I was refered to HeadGames but I don't know what they offer. I was hoping there are a few Supra owners out there who have gone the HeadGames™ route and could share your thoughts and opinions about what they offer. Maybe how they compare to the competition...
Thanks! MIX
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09-04-2008, 08:33 PM
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I believe Titan heads are now CNC ported. The price has remained the same if not gone up. Don't understand why it's not cheaper now since the porting is automated...
heard nothing but good things about Headgames and Titan heads though.. someone NEEDS to come up with an aftermarket casting. stupid shitty ass flowing 2JZ heads...
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09-04-2008, 09:31 PM
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+1 to that! So many ballers on SF why not all chip in?!?!
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09-04-2008, 09:54 PM
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Not to mention we make up a small portion of the automotive community. Our motors are not as common as the SBC, BBC, or SBF crowd. Why don't you think for a second? A better flowing head would max out your boost sooner, with a bit of a "shitty" flowing head as you say, it would allow you to run more boost. So take your pick, more boost with decent flow, or less boost with maximum flow.
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09-05-2008, 04:22 AM
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when you're running a T6 framed turbo, im not worried about maxing out the turbo..
the 2JZ head does not flow really well. you need to look at what some of the other stock production heads are flowing from the factory.. 350z? shit even the honda b series heads I should probably just leave my head stock so i can boost more and make more power that way then huh?  I'll choose making more power on a more efficient set-up (in this case, the cylinder head) over making more power with more boost any day.my antiquated ass V8 with a single intake valve, ported stock LS head flows 282@.400 lift. they were $1200 brand new for the pair, no core needed. Since we have no after market alternative...I will be taking my Supra head to HeadGames or Titan..
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09-05-2008, 10:43 AM
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I'm just speaking from the other side of the fence.
I've heard the 2JZ flowing around 250 to as much as 270. I like how you're comparing a head on a naturally aspirated motor where flow through it matters most to a head on a turbo motor. |
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09-06-2008, 04:35 PM
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Everyone probably has his or her favorite, and the reality is there are more than a handful of tuners capable of improving the flow performance of the 2jz head to withing a percent or two of each other. Given the specific shop cited, however, few would argue that their capabilities and track record are deserving of being on anyone's short list when considering head work.
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09-06-2008, 05:07 PM
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Headgames has done many heads but a bit pricey. Im sure they do good work though.
I had Portworx do mine and I love it. I wanted a streetable car nothing crazy so I didnt really want high port numbers. They got the highest ive seen on a GTE exhaust side where it matters around They are doing (6) other GTE heads up for some Canadians. Last edited by Spoolin Turbo; 09-06-2008 at 05:27 PM. |
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And...as far as a aftermarket casting. It is first off, a absolutely huge investment with minimal return for your money and performance. Your talking about a factory head we can port to make 1800+hp. Besides, it would require different cams, belts, and gears since one of the few things you could do would be to change valve angle. There really is no sense in it. The factory head can flow almost 320cfm when ported correctly. And that is a head none of you would ever want to run in anything under 1500whp. There is ALOT more you can do with V8 heads then these. |
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09-07-2008, 08:47 PM
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Everytime I run into Dave he's got some sexy chick with him
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Jaime, Don doesn't do any of your head machining/work?
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Dave built the heads for our 350z that just reached 1017 RWHP. The amazing thing is that the car engine makes HP up to 8500 which is unheard of for the VQ motor!! I can probably rev it higher too!! Here is the dyno graph:
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My friend and I sent a set of frickin' Ferrari 456 V12 heads to Headgames for some mild work. Considering they were damned Ferrari heads, Dave beat anyone's pricing on labor and parts. Turnaround was quick as well.
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The gears in the 350 are plenty strong!! Now the syncros..... that's a diff story along with the diff and axles! |
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09-12-2008, 11:42 AM
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Krister, I'll see if I saved any.
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09-12-2008, 01:35 PM
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I know from the evo world headgames does MOST big shops heads. they pretty much have their name on the highest hp heads in the evo world
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09-12-2008, 05:00 PM
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Ferrari 456 valve guides are notorious for going bad, I think the car in question had 12k on it and were worn to the point it hurt the valve. We made custom valve guides out of manganese bronze and custom Ferrea valves to cure the issue..but here is some pics, some are not so clear.
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09-12-2008, 05:01 PM
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Mike at Eurotoys is my best friend and the only guy that touches my cars. The guy is a phenomenal technician. We've got a spare GTE head for my Supra coming your way soon. And I want the Larry Prebis price, damn it.
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