Greddy E-manage Ultimate?

[notlownf]

I know this is a fairly new unit but I was hoping one of you had some experience with it. if you have some experience, what do you think of it?

[::MySTiK_[SuPRa]::]

According to mohdparts.com, its soon to be released in the US in August 2005.

Im looking forward to see what this thing can really do. I hope it can get rid of the MAF. That'll make it indeed the ULTIMATE piggy back system out in the market.

here's some more pics posted at mohdparts.

http://www.mohdparts.com/emanage/tmp...age/index.html

[notlownf]

Yeh i hope so too, i'm going single soon and I would like to find a better unit than the S-AFC 2 I'm running now. I'm going to give Al a call this week and see if he knows anything about it.

[::MySTiK_[SuPRa]::]

Originally Posted by notlownf

Yeh i hope so too, i'm going single soon and I would like to find a better unit than the S-AFC 2 I'm running now. I'm going to give Al a call this week and see if he knows anything about it.

It would be a GREAT alternative to the AEM which can be kind of intimidating, and an alternative to the HKS F-Con VPro which the customer cant tune.

And after some more researching, I am VERY excited about this unit. It CAN get rid of the stock MAF, it can datalog, and display ignition timing in REAL TIME.

FINALLY something made for the consumers that do not want to indulge in a full standalone, but whom still want to do a little bit of tinkering, something that i wish HKS allowed us to do.

Here are a list of the E-manage Ultimate's Specs:

Front Panel

Toggle Switch (Dip) - 2 independent setting can now be stored and accessed via the “Toggle Switch.” 2 separate maps for the “Injection Adjustment Map” and the “Ignition Map.” (For Rotary engines, 2 separate “Primary and Secondary Injector Maps” and “Leading & Trailing Ignition Maps.”) i.e. one program for “street” and one for “race track”.
Serial port - External data (like “GReddy Warning Meters”, and other future optional products) can be monitored and recorded in real time through a data link cable.
Switch Port - “Data logging” and “Ignition Cut” features can be activated with the use of an optional “Remote Switching System” and “Switching Harness”
Option 1 & Option 2 - An additional “Option Connector” is added to the previous “Pressure Connector.” Now any two Options (like “GReddy Pressure Sensor”, “GReddy Temp Sensor,” “Multi-Switching System,” A/F Meter, Auxiliary Switch, Factory Pressure Sensor, or Other Analog Input signal) can be selected using the “Option 1” and/or “Option 2 “ ports.
USB Port - e-Manage is industry first to adapt the USB communication technology. We have improved communication with ability to use standard USB cables. This improvement also enhances the communication speed for more detailed real time monitoring and data recording.

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Real Panel

Because of new Features, there are now 3 “Harness Connectors” (sold separately). The 18-pin and 12-pin connectors and the signal pins are identical to the previous e-manage system, while a new 14-pin connector was added for new features. Additional “Vehicle Specific Plug-in Harness” may also be available for certain applications.

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Circuit Board

Many Optional Adapters, which previously need to be purchased separately, are now built-in. The internal circuit board contains 20 “Jumper Switches” to accommodate (previously separate) features, including:
Mazda Hotwire Airflow Meter Adapter
Ignition Signal Adapter Socket (Ignition Signal Adapter 1 & 2)

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Parameter Setting
- The biggest change to this system is in the “Parameter Setting” window. With all the added features, the window is now in a tab menu format.

Speed Limiter Cut Feature - This feature will eliminate the factory speed limiter. (May not work on some vehicles)
Throttle Setting - Any voltage can be inputted directly to set the throttle position.
Warning Setting - “e-manage Ultimate” can illuminate the Active LED. as a warning light for RPM and/or one additional parameter from the menu, by selecting and setting a warning point value (or an unused “I/J CH” can be used to activate a relay to illuminate an external warning light).
Ignition Cut Feature - With the installation of a switch (in the “ON” position), ignition can be cut at a set RPM point
Map Trace
Protect Feature - Each Map has the option to be password protected
A/T Shift Compensation Feature - On vehicles with Automatic Transmissions, ignition timing can be compensated at set shift-up and shift-down points
Channel Change Feature - Vehicles with a distributor type ignition system may able to use group fire or individual ignition systems (Replacement parts and modifications to the wire harness is required) Also, Group injection systems may be changed to sequential injection (Modifications to the wire harness is required).

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Map's

Airflow Output Map - Previously labeled “Airflow Adjustment Map” is now “Airflow Output Map”. This can now used to eliminate the factory airflow meter. This is done by directly inputting voltage or frequency in to this map.
Anti Engine Stall Feature - The 8 adjustment cells are now upgraded to 16 cells, for even finer adjustment.
Injection Adjustment Map - Fuel trimming in the previous system was achieved by adjusting the “Airflow Adjustment Map” which could also affect the ignition timing. The improved “Injection Adjustment Map” is used to trim and add fuel directly by controlling the injector signal, therefore it will not affect the ignition timing at all. (However with an internal jumper setting change, the system is still able to trim the fuel by adjusting the airflow signal like the previous unit)
Acceleration Injection Map - Like the “Injection Adjustment Map”, the “Acceleration Injection Map” can trim fuel by controlling the injector signal. This is used if it is necessary to smooth rapid transitions to wide open throttle.
Individual Cylinder Injection Adj. & Individual Cylinder Ignition Adj. Maps - It is possible to correct uneven combustion between cylinders, by fine tuning each individual cylinder for more advanced tuning.
Vehicle Speed Correction Map - Inconsistencies due to differences in vehicle speed (difference in load) can be corrected with this map.
Coolant Temp Correction Map (Must be Selected with Knock Signal 1) - When the ECU Coolant Temp Calibration does not match the e-manage’s tuning, this map is used to tune the system at various temperature ranges.
Intake Air Temp Correction Map (Must be Selected with Knock Signal 2) - When the ECU Intake Air Temp Calibration does not match the e-manage’s tuning, this map is used to tune the system at various temperature ranges. This map is also be used when eliminating the airflow meter on a vehicle equipped with a hotwire type airflow meter.
Rev Limiter Cut - For vehicles with a fuel cutting controlled rev limiter, this feature will drive the injectors past the factory rev limiter. *This feature will not work on vehicles with rev limiter controlled by ignition cut.
A/F Target Value Map (feedback tuning function) - By inputting target Air Fuel values in this map, “e-mange Ultimate” will automatically make corrections to the “Injection Map,” if an A/F meter (*high quality) is connected to the Auxiliary Output signal. This feature can shorten the tuning time.
Ignition Adjustment Map - The “Ignition Adjustment Map” can accurately advance ignition timing by controlling the crank angle / cam angle signal.
Acceleration Ignition Map - Ignition timing can also be corrected for a rapid change in the throttle opening rate for a smoother transition into wide open throttle.
NVCS Control Map - NVCS (Nissan Valve Control System) can be controlled with out the need for NVCS Adapter 1.
Analog Output Map - This feature can be used to eliminate the factory boost cut function on vehicles that are equipped with both an airflow meter and a pressure sensor (i.e.: FC3S, Subaru). Also, on some vehicles, the factory feedback range can be adjusted by outputting a corrected throttle position signal.
Auxiliary Output Map - The fixed 4x4 map on the previous unit is now a fully adjustable 16x16 map. Set your own "ON" and "OFF" conditions.
Idle Stabilization Map - If the factory idle control valve is a solenoid type valve, this map can vary the valve’s duration to adjust the injection rate. This is used when eliminating the airflow meter.

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Other Added Features

RPM Signal Recognition Improved RPM signal. If the standard RPM signal wire cannot be used, an RPM signal can be recognized though a crank angle / cam angle signal. With an internal jumper setting, the system can even recognize RPM from the negative signal of the ignition coil.
Fouled Plug Feature - When initiated this feature can help clean fouled spark plugs by cutting the injector’s firing at start up. To fix the fouled plug start the engine with wide-open throttle.


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Data Log Features

Data Logging - Samplings can be recorded at 20msec on up to different 8 channels on the unit itself and over 30 when using the included software. The data can be recorded even when the PC is not connected.
TEXT File Feature - The data recorded in the Real Time Display mode can now be save as TEXT file. Organizing the data can simplified by opening the data in Excel and creating a graph.
Knock Monitor (Future update) - Knock can be monitored and reviewed.
Ignition Timing Display (Future update) - Ignition Timing can be monitored in the Real Time Display mode.

[notlownf]

I agree, I really wanted to go with the F CON V pro but only being able to use a pro dealer sucks a little.

[Philly Single]

WoW:
Individual Cylinder Injection Adj. & Individual Cylinder Ignition Adj. Maps - It is possible to correct uneven combustion between cylinders, by fine tuning each individual cylinder for more advanced tuning.

[RSP TRD WIDEBODY]

what Jay said.....WOW....sequential injection is nifty in such an affordable setup....pretty sweet guys....I'm keeping an eyer on this product.....

[Steve Theodore]

Looking forward to hearing more about this one.

[Justin]

That looks awfully complicated... very cool though, and for a decent price.

with the airflow output, i wonder how plug and play it is.

[Prodigy]

Originally Posted by Justin

That looks awfully complicated... very cool though, and for a decent price.

with the airflow output, i wonder how plug and play it is.

Also i heard it has a wide band Port...And has some self learn features....i called greddy they said its out already....So whos going to buy it and see if it works

[Justin]

Originally Posted by lhduce

Also i heard it has a wide band Port...And has some self learn features....i called greddy they said its out already....So whos going to buy it and see if it works

Yeah, I saw somthing like that.... does that mean (of course this is mostly speculation) that a user can plug in a wideband output into the eMan ultimate and tell the eMan to keep the AFR at a set level during WOT?


Also, has anyone seen wether or not the e01 can still control the ultimate?

[notlownf]

If it's out already then I'll probably pick one up in a couple weeks and ditch my S-AFC 2.....I'll keep you updated.

[::MySTiK_[SuPRa]::]

Originally Posted by Justin

Yeah, I saw somthing like that.... does that mean (of course this is mostly speculation) that a user can plug in a wideband output into the eMan ultimate and tell the eMan to keep the AFR at a set level during WOT?

I believe YES.

check out here the A/F Target Map:



I cant wait to get some real feedback from this thing. Notlownf, please keep us updated.



-Phu

[Silver Bullet]

I would like to try this as well. Anyone who gets it and tries it , definitely keep some feedback. I may give it a try to compare . Any idea on the price range?

Tony

[Ineed2speed]

http://www.mohdparts.com/emanage/ind...ge%20Ultimate:

about 535 from Mohd. Just a few days ago, it said August release but I guess its being released in July or is already available to some. Someone hurry up and get it!

[ArpusDogma]

is there an identical or separate unit for NA-T's like the AEM?

jigar

[Prodigy]

Originally Posted by Justin

Yeah, I saw somthing like that.... does that mean (of course this is mostly speculation) that a user can plug in a wideband output into the eMan ultimate and tell the eMan to keep the AFR at a set level during WOT?


Also, has anyone seen wether or not the e01 can still control the ultimate?

The tech at greddy said yes..it just must be a good o2 like the NTk or AEM...if it can do all it claims plus take off the stock rev limiter.....does anyone know if our rev cut is control by fuel???

[Justin]

oh my goodness this seems awesome!

does anyone know if the removal of the AFM/MAF is going to be plug 'n play, or if it needs to be programed?

is there an identical or separate unit for NA-T's like the AEM?

The emanage is the emanage, that's pretty much it, its not plug and play there's alot of wiring that has to be done. (unless there's a plug 'n play harness for the MKIV )

[Prodigy]

[QUOTE=Justin]oh my goodness this seems awesome!

does anyone know if the removal of the AFM/MAF is going to be plug 'n play, or if it needs to be programed?

i ask the guy the same question he told me that u can remove it and it will run like stock if its stock fuel mind you??

[Justin]

[QUOTE=lhduce]

Originally Posted by Justin

i ask the guy the same question he told me that u can remove it and it will run like stock if its stock fuel mind you??

The guy = Greddy tech?



This definatly sounds like its worth the money... hell people are paying 500 bucks for the VPC, and this will do that and 1000x more (it sounds like)

[notlownf]

Originally Posted by ::MySTiK_[SuPRa]::

Notlownf, please keep us updated.

-Phu

I definately will, Are you going to Nazars on the 24th? After I get it I'll be posting on the mailing list so you'll be one of the first to know.

Chris

[::MySTiK_[SuPRa]::]

Originally Posted by notlownf

I definately will, Are you going to Nazars on the 24th? After I get it I'll be posting on the mailing list so you'll be one of the first to know.

Chris

I plan to be.

Looking forward to seeing your car Chris.



-Phu

[notlownf]

Originally Posted by ::MySTiK_[SuPRa]::

I plan to be.

Looking forward to seeing your car Chris.


-Phu

Thanks....although it needs a paint job pretty bad.

[BWsupra97]

i called suprastore and a couple of other shops and then said around 2 weeks before they get em...sounds awsome...im deff picking one up

[Prodigy]

The tech said they will have them this friday...